Minutes Price City Planning and Zoning
Price City Hall 

October 12, 1999  6:00 P.M.




Gary Lyon
Laurel Marinos
Penny Sampinos
Alfred Richens
Vern Jones, Community Planner
Carolyn Vogrinec, Secretary
Councilmember Joe Piccolo


John Angotti, Chairman
Larry Bruno, Vice-Chairman
Others Present:
Madeline Nyffeler
Lori Prince
Lynda Varner
Karen Bliss
Jack Leautaud
Tom Mannschreck
Barbara Moulton
Vopal Lander
Francis Duzenack
Mark Donathan

In the absence of both Chairman John Angotti and Vice-Chairman Larry Bruno, a motion was presented by Joe Piccolo to have Penny Sampinos serve as Chairman Pro-Tem during the course of this meeting. Gary Lyon seconded and the motion carried.

There were no corrections or additions and Gary Lyon made a motion to approve the minutes of September 20, 1999. Alfred Richens seconded and the motion carried.


Madeline Nyffeler appeared before the Commission to represent Castle Valley Community Theater. She explained the signs are for their upcoming three week production of Nightmare Theater. They are asking for permission to put up eleven signs for advertisement. (A location list is attached) All signs are weighted with sand bags and will be removed on November 1. Mr. Piccolo referred to the incident where the wind blew over an A-frame sign, located on Price City property, onto a vehicle causing substantial damage for which the City was liable. The signs in question were 4' x 8' and, in the wind, became top heavy and easily blown over. He would like all signs to remain at the 4' x' 4' size. In addition, he would like to see all signs situated on private property along with permission from the property owner allowing the signs to be placed on their property. Signs can not be set up on the sidewalks or restrict traffic view. There was no further discussion on the matter and Joe Piccolo moved to forward a favorable recommendation to Price City Council for the Temporary Conditional Use Permit for the positions of eleven A-Frame signs for the advertisement of the Castle Valley Community Theater Production " Nightmare Theater", along with the understanding that all signs will be on private property, with the exception of Sign #2 (Main and 100 East), which will be placed on Price City Property. Alfred Richens seconded and the motion carried.

380 NORTH 600 EAST

In the absence of Mr. Oldham, Alfred Richens made a motion to table this item until the next meeting. Gary Lyon seconded and the motion carried.

300 EAST 500 NORTH

Ms. Bliss appeared before the Commission and referred Commissioners to the information provided. She explained that UDOT had called the parties involved into session to ask for help in doing some things as a college and a city that would make it safer for the drivers and pedestrians on 300 East. UDOT had asked if all drive approaches on 300 East could be closed, two on the east side of the street and two on the west side of the street. They were finally able to negotiate and come to agreement that the two approaches on the east side of 300 East should be retained, one to the physical plant and one to the dormitory, but they could reconstruct a way to enter the parking lot to the dorms on the west side (300 East) of the street. Reference to attached map shows the two dormitories in question. Parkdale Care Center is behind them and the two existing driveways are on the west side of 300 East. They are prepared to move on the project and have accepted a bid from Henrie Construction to close those two approaches and open an approach on 500 North. They have worked this through, even calling on Price City Engineer Gary Sonntag to give them a hand in redesigning the designers work so they could meet and accommodate all of the concerns from Price City. They have worked with Parkdale Care Center because they have an access through the drive approach to allow for emergency and service vehicles. They have placed the access so as not to disturb very many trees, miss water sprinklers and storm drain, eliminating as few parking places as possible. They are looking at the Desert Wave pedestrian cross walk in order to insure safety. To accommodate the requirements of the Fire Department, if and when the fire engine comes and parks in front of the dorms to service a fire, they will need to be able to exit on to 300 East. They cannot back up because of the distance. They will leave a small amount of overshot with a grid and plant grass, allowing a heavy truck to be able to drive over the curb. This will not have the appearance of an entrance to be used by students, but will be grassed in the parkway, sidewalk and curb walls and will accommodate the need if an emergency vehicle must have access. They are ready to begin the work, but would like to present these plans to the Planning and Zoning Commission for their perusal. Gary Lyon asked if they were going to create an exit from the dormitories onto 600 North. Ms. Bliss indicated they had abandoned this idea because the building permit was given on the condition they would not put another entry onto 600 North. When the area residents came to the public hearing and did not support the request, UDOT then agreed that the drive approach onto 300 East should be retained. It has helped considerably to do the red zoning and do away with the parallel parking. Alfred Richens asked if they would have to eliminate some of the street parking on 5th North on either side of the entrance to the parking lot. Ms. Bliss said four parking spots will be eliminated. Joe Piccolo asked for the total loss of parking spaces for this project. Ms. Bliss indicated they have gained two in front of the dormitory and lost about 30 spaces in the back, which have not been used for parking. They also solved a major water problem. There is a steep slope from the retaining wall that, in the winter, dumps the water right into the two lower apartments. They will no longer continually have to refurbish these apartments. At this point in time, they will be able to accommodate the number of permits they have out in the front parking lot. Price City Engineer Gary Sonntag has asked that they consider converting the grassy spots (reference to the map) to a second parking lot. However, at this point, they are not in a financial position to do this project due to the expense. Joe Piccolo asked if dormitories were built tomorrow, would there be adequate parking for the dormitory residents. Ms. Bliss said based on the students this year with cars - yes, but based on the number of beds -no. Mr. Piccolo expressed his concern and asked if there were plans to accommodate parking next year if there is an increase in enrollment. Mr. Bliss indicated they would try to shift them to the parking behind the Computer Business Building and tag them as their permanent parking places. Gary Lyon asked if they would consider eliminating some of the grass for parking at the dorm now. Ms. Bliss told the Commission that this is the part they had been asked to do by Price City, but do not have the financial resources to comply right now. Because this presentation is for information only, there was no formal action taken. Mr. Piccolo expressed appreciation on behalf of the Commission to Ms. Bliss and CEU for the input and update on this project and thanked her for her attendance.

950 NORTH 200 EAST

Mr. Lander told the Commission he would like establish an association for unemployed EMTs. There are 25-35 certified EMTs per year trained locally and after their certification, they must recertify every three years. During that time, they must take a re-certification class to keep their certification hours up. Most of them lose interest and about 70% of the trained EMTs are lost. He would like to develop an organization to meet bi-monthly or monthly at his home to practice skills and keep everyone motivated to become recertified. They have discussed projects with Lt. Rapich of the Utah Highway Patrol which would implement 27 Highway Patrol cars that not having CB radios to monitor Channel 9, the emergency channel, on a CB Radio. Their first project would be to get funding to put 27 radios in those patrol cars. These are the type of projects in which they would engage. Gary Lyon referred to the list of the polled neighbors that are in favor of the project, but feels it would impact the neighborhood severely.

Mr. Lander indicated they would not begin with very many members, but as it grows, meetings could be held at local hotel conference rooms. There is an empty lot next to his home where boats, snowmobiles, trailers and various items of this nature are parked and have been for several years. He feels they could improve the appearance of the lot and utilize it as parking. Gary Lyon asked if there were any neighbors that did not approve of the idea and did not sign the petition. Mr. Lander indicated there were no negative responses and those who did have questions were answered fully by Mr. Lander.

Mr. Lander believes this is a good idea to keep EMTs motivated and certified. All that are being trained are not employed by a service or agency. They will not in any way interfere with 911 or the emergency system at large. They will meet only as an association and require all members to have a cell phone, CB radio and jump kit. Gary Lyon asked if the ambulance service had a position for a third EMT on some of their runs. Mr. Lander indicated the ambulance service recently hired two more EMTs and their rooster is now full.

Alfred Richens asked what the association would do to raise money for the CB radios. Mr. Lander indicated he had contacted the EMS in Washington and in Salt Lake City and funding can be obtained through grants, if an association is established. Funds can also be obtained through public donation. Mr. Richens asked what the consequences would be having two vehicle radios on at the same time. Mr. Lander said the Highway Patrol was not concerned about that, but was very interested in monitoring Channel 9. Of thirty patrol cars in the sector, they only have three patrol cars with CB radios with which to monitor Channel 9. Gary Lyon said that Channel 9 is very noisy and many people use the channel. Mr. Lander indicated the channel now has less usage and the noise has cleared considerably. It is now illegal to use the channel for anything but emergencies. If the Highway Patrol can monitor the channel, they could catch those who are using the channel unnecessarily.

Joe Piccolo asked concerning the Carbon County Search and Rescue. They meet at a building in the Industrial Park. Instead of using the home for an office, have you considered this option. Mr. Lander indicated there was not that much traffic on his street and the organization would not be large at the beginning. The main office would be in his home office which is already set up as an office. However, we could meet else where if necessary.

Mr. Piccolo indicated he was not certain if he could support large meetings in a neighborhood and asked for the Price City Land Use Management and Development Code concerning this issue. Many home occupied businesses are discouraged by the Planning Commission if they attract a great deal of traffic. Francis Duzenack told the Commission he has no concern with the office in the home, but is concerned with the parking. If the parking is limited, then the business is okay. There was some discussion on the parking issue for this applicant and Mr. Piccolo told Mr. Lander he objected to the use of the neighbor's lot for parking. Mr. Lander said he can park eight cars at his home, but if there are more than eight cars, they can hold meetings elsewhere. Mr. Richens asked if the meetings would go beyond 8:00 P.M. and Mr. Lander indicated they would adjourn no later than 9:00 P.M.

Gary Lyon asked what type of agreement could be reached concerning this parking issue. Mr. Lander indicated he did not think parking would be an issue. Joe Piccolo asked Mr. Lander if he would feel uncomfortable if parking were restricted to his property and street front. Mr. Lander agreed to this use. Gary Lyon asked if this would be open-ended permit or have a time limit attached because of impact on the neighborhood. Mr. Piccolo feels there is no reason to make it temporary because if complaints are filed, the Price City Police Department will handle them. Mr. Piccolo called attention to the Conditional Use Permit Application, stating that Item #12 should be clarified. It shows there are 30 parking spaces and should be corrected to read 12 spaces. Also strike the use of the neighboring lot and allow the use of own property only. With these changes, Joe Piccolo then moved to forward a favorable recommendation to Price City Council for the Home Occupied Business - Office Only - for Golden Hour Rescue Association - Vopel Lander. Laurel Marinos seconded and the motion carried.

1680 EAST 300 SOUTH

Mr. Mannschreck appeared before the Commission once again indicating all outstanding issues have been addressed. He feels everyone has worked hard to resolve the problems and this sets the stage for some additional infrastructure in this part of town. He answered each outstanding issue point by point, saying the water and sewer flow issues have been solved. You may remember the plan for sewer being taken to the west and the water taken to the north through Ms. Varner's property and coming back on Nelson Lane. The global solution for this part of town is to run the water and sewer south from this property down to Fausett Lane. Mr. Leautaud has been accommodating in working with them and they have an agreement in principle and are cost sharing the work. The deeding and easements have been addressed and are in draft form. There is also a secondary emergency vehicle exit. Gary Lyon asked where the canal was located on the site plan. Mr. Mannschreck indicated it is off the proposed street and Roscrea Development. There was some discussion as to whether the north-south street on the east side of the property would be on the property or one lot over. A revised plan has been presented consistent and agreeable to Mr. Leautaud, showing the street being built on the east boundary of Roscrea Apartments. The road comes south to the secondary access. The ultimate connection of this road down to Fausett Lane will occur when Jack Leautaud does the plan of his subdivision.

Mr. Mannschreck indicated other technical issues have been resolved satisfactorily. There was discussion on the water percolation system and on-site retention. Some re-design may be done in order to make them work more effectively. The handicapped accessibility issues have been presented and await feedback from Lynda Varner. There are some items done by Thomas Development which are user friendly for ADA.

The basic site layout has not been changed. The development is entered through a single primary access for security and tenant relationship reasons. There are six 8-unit buildings for a total of 48 units - 24 two bedroom units and 24 three bedroom units. The parking ratio is 2-1 and is situated directly in front of all the units. The lines shown on the site plan are water and sewer, with the development of the street and the dedication of the street to the public. The main water and sewer lines will be in the street and the service lines will come in to the property. The sloping for this property is from the north and the east to the south and the west. Water from the parking/driving area will be channeled to the center and into the drain. Surface drainage will be accommodated in a large retention area - in a landscaped area in a sub-pavement retention/detention area. Fencing for the development will be a six foot high solid fence and a two rail vinyl fence. There will be a twenty foot maintenance road between the Housing Authority fence and the Roscrea Apartment fence so that Housing Authority can access their maintenance shed. Ms.Varner expressed concern about access for the fire truck.

Vern Jones spoke up saying the fire truck will access any Housing Authority fire from their side of the property. When asked if Housing Authority should gate the 20 foot roadway, Mr. Mannschreck spoke in favor of the idea. Joe Piccolo asked where the detention water would drain. Mr. Mannschreck indicated it would go to a detention pond and typically, there is no outlet. The detention pond is designed for a 100 year floor plain. There was extensive discussion on water drainage.

Alfred Richens asked if Staff had reviewed the plans. Mr. Jones indicated the review had been done.

Joe Piccolo asked the adjacent property owners in attendance if they had any concerns at this time. They indicated there were none. Lynda Varner indicated she had been given the needed documents in draft form and expects to have them finalized within 30 days time.

Vern Jones told the Commission that basically, this is a one lot subdivision. He will recommend two motions for approval. The first will be to approve the single lot subdivision and the second will be approval of the Roscrea Apartment Development. The developer will submit construction drawings and there will be detailed drawings of each and every thing that goes on, prior to allowing construction.

There was no further discussion and Joe Piccolo moved to forward a favorable recommendation to Price City Council for a single lot subdivision to separate the expansion property from the Roscrea Apartment Development. Alfred Richens seconded and the motion carried.

Joe Piccolo then moved to forward a favorable recommendation to Price City Council for Conditional Use Permit - Final Approval for Roscrea Apartment Development, according to the plans dated October 6, 1999. Gary Lyon seconded and the motion carried.


Vern Jones told the Planning and Zoning Commission the training from Utah Local Government Trust will be rescheduled after the first of the year and be held in Price.

Mr. Jones spoke concerning discussions with the Ascension Lutheran Church. They own the property located in the northeast section of town, at the top of Sagewood Road. They would like to develop the property and establish dialog with Price City concerning whether or not Sagewood Road should be continued further to the east. They want to build their Church and the location of their Church will be based on the location of the street. He asked Commissioners to look at the area in question and prepare for discussion at the next meeting.

There was no further business and the meeting adjourned at 7:30 P.M.